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influencing construction now costs money?
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John Galt RJ: John Galt CO: John Galt Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 23 Karma: 97 Joined: Apr 6, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 So, was this something I just hadn't seen before, or is this new? Because I basically just killed off my cash reserves unknowingly, as I did a very minor renovation on a factory (adding 10m^2), and knowing that I had a bunch of influence, went and sped along the building without paying much attention. Turns out it cost me the influence plus what must've been around 1.8MM dollars, which I never would have done if I had noticed it.Using influence has never previously involved money for me. Was I just lucky and under some cap for having to spend to use influence, or is this a new aspect of the game? Yeah, I get that I should have read more closely, but yeesh, that is painful, given that up until now, the game has conditioned me to think of spending influence as free. |
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Ham Bunny RJ: Hambunny Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 12 Karma: 10 Joined: Apr 12, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 Same here, didn't notice and end up paying lots of cash for it.
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Reiter Hexenmeister RJ: Ritter Hexenmeister Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Joined: Mar 26, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 (Last edited on Apr 23, 2012) I think its a new requirement for speed expansion/construction, I stay iddle on my stores for seven hours, because was I saving money to complete quest, now short on cash and can't accelerate expansion.I agree to pay money aside influence for expansion, maybe, proportional to company or construction size, but now the price for accelerate expansion is very expensive: cost for expansion from 100m^2 to 150m^2 = $500,000; cost for hurry expansion > $15,000,000, more than 30 times, can't afford that. |
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Moe Jack RJ: Moejack CO: Moe Jack Post Rating: 9 + / - Total Posts: 128 Karma: 74 Joined: Apr 7, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 I just now encountered the money+influence for hurrying as well. It's quite a lot of money as well. I haven't noticed, but it would be handy if you could SEE how much it would cost to hurry the construction on the construction panel. Like a "buy now" button. I would guess that many people would only undergo construction they could pay for right then. |
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James Grey RJ: Dairy Aire CO: Dairy Aire Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 26 Karma: 21 Joined: Apr 17, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 Price is massive o.0 Should be at lest half of what is.
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Billy Vierra RJ: Saffrian CO: Billy Vierra Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 84 Karma: 100 Joined: Apr 10, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 Hit me as well :) The "Buy now" instead of hurry seems like a great idea to me :)
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zxektok megatron RJ: zxektok Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 140 Karma: 170 Joined: Mar 6, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 agreed - i have been saving up my influence. this change pretty much makes me have to spend about 100 MIL to spend my influence points i have saved.give us warning please, and rectract the influence thing for 1 week so people can spend saved influence instead of forcing people to hold onto it until they are HUGE (and decrease the cost lol) |
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John Galt RJ: John Galt CO: John Galt Post Rating: 4 + / - Total Posts: 23 Karma: 97 Joined: Apr 6, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 I have to agree, beyond what I've already stated about how easy it is to accidentally spend a lot of money with this change, that the cost (even if you wanted to use this) seems astronomical. I'm not sure under what circumstances I'd ever use influence at this point.By way of example, a 20m^2 expansion to one of my research facilities (from 60m^2 to 80m^2) will cost me either 5 hours of downtime, or $10.7MM. I'm having a hard time imagining a scenario where saving 5 hours of research downtime would be worth that much money. For $10.7MM I could just leave the building the same size and pay to outsource an ungodly amount of research for much greater effect. And, if that scales linearly, I'd need about $200MM to be able to actually use the influence I have stored up. For a company whose daily revenue is currently only around $4.5MM, this change is pretty much putting influence into the "ignore this aspect of the game" category. |
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zxektok megatron RJ: zxektok Post Rating: 4 + / - Total Posts: 140 Karma: 170 Joined: Mar 6, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 agreed - it makes the influence semi pointless for small companies
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Moe Jack RJ: Moejack CO: Moe Jack Post Rating: 4 + / - Total Posts: 128 Karma: 74 Joined: Apr 7, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 which makes it that much harder for smaller companies to get anywhere...
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Scott (Admin) RJ: Ratan Joyce CO: Ratan Joyce Post Rating: -6 + / - Total Posts: 1175 Karma: 5083 Joined: Jan 13, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 Since I'm seeing too many negatives and not one positive, I'll reduce the cost for smaller companies once I get home tonight. No refunds will be given for already hurried expansions.
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Aleksandr Bismarck RJ: Randy Sweetcakes Post Rating: 4 + / - Total Posts: 7 Karma: 47 Joined: Mar 28, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 Wow. I'm glad I bumped into this thread before I went to rush my latest construction or I'd probably have been soaked for 25% of my company's nett worth.I'm glad I'm practically out of influence as I won't be needing it any more. |
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zxektok megatron RJ: zxektok Post Rating: 4 + / - Total Posts: 140 Karma: 170 Joined: Mar 6, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 Omnipotent One - please can we have a day or to without this feature so people can have some warning before a big change. Many of us still have influence to spend and did not expect your holiness to do this on a whim....
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David Donlon RJ: Fenious Buttersmith Post Rating: 4 + / - Total Posts: 79 Karma: 53 Joined: Apr 10, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 It really didn't make sense for the hurrying to be totally free, but it is very expensive now. I simply can't afford to hurry anything at these prices.Is this intended to stop some of the shenanigans that went on before? If so, I can't completely be against it, but would welcome some relief. |
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Jim Frazer RJ: Kenneth Noisewater CO: Kenneth Noisewater Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 25 Karma: 31 Joined: Apr 14, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 Luckily I'm too poor to accidentally pay for my rushed expansion :) Wanted to consolidate my 2 beverage factories into 1, so I started a 50m^2 expansion and tried to hurry it... 60 influence and 8.5mil. Ouch. Good thing I tried the "hurry" before selling the other factory. Don't want to be dead in the water for hours not producing any apple juice. Think about the children! |
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Jayle Trigger RJ: Berry Punch CO: Applejack Post Rating: 4 + / - Total Posts: 93 Karma: 85 Joined: Apr 9, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 23, 2012 Woo.. it is mighty expensive to hurry construction.3.5 hours to go on a 90m expansion, to 100m total... Cost: 42 influence and $8.65 M Company in question: (Level 6 junk company that I picked up and am trying to save.) http://www.ratjoy.com/eos/firm/3318 http://www.ratjoy.com/eos/stock-view.php?ss=IMG |
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