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Wages/fees are way too high
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Chandler Hill RJ: Chandler CO: Chandler Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 54 Karma: 113 Joined: Mar 25, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 (Last edited on Apr 7, 2012) Even before the 30% to 100% increase, wages were absurd. I paid $2 million the past two nights in wages. My company's net worth is just barely over $50 million. I'm paying 4%, soon to be %12 percent (TWELVE PERCENT) of my COMPANY'S NET WORTH every single night to cover wages alone. Doubling maintenence and adding the tax...If my calculations are correct, I'm going to be paying: $1 million in building maintenence $6 million in wages 12% of whatever I make today in tax (which, let's say that's 5 million, = 600k) 400k in dividends = 8 million. Every night. My company's networth is nearly $56 million. It's taken me about 2 weeks to build it up, and now I'm basically losing 3 million a night unless I find a miracle. I'm not a big company. I could understand if I was like something the size of Jackos, like some company worth $5.6 G or something. But I haven't even scraped the hundreds of millions and already I am basically screwed because I'm paying 1/7th of my net worth every night in fees and costs. I understand wanting to clamp down on growth, but these rates make any growth near impossible. edit: whoops i posted this in newbie station OH WELL |
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Chandler Hill RJ: Chandler CO: Chandler Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 54 Karma: 113 Joined: Mar 25, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 Oh, I did some figuring things out, I guess it's because my cafe is 1500m^2. The thing is though, I only use it to sell wine. It is a wine cafe. Why do I have so many employees, I don't need that many dudes to hock wine at discount prices
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Tony Wooster RJ: Johnny Appleseed Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 41 Karma: 51 Joined: Apr 4, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 That makes sense then. No doubt that wages are based on a reasonable expected minimum revenues for a store of a given type and size. You're simply not leveraging your cafe's ability to sell all sorts of other products. I haven't done the calcs, but I'd bet that if you filled it even from the import market (w/ its prices only ~25% below retail), you'd start turning profits.
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Walter Yorkshire RJ: Walter Yorkshire CO: Walter Yorkshire Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 132 Karma: 379 Joined: Feb 5, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 Don't worry, it hit the big companies hard alsoYour company paid $10,828,615.16 in taxes, $131,084,668.80 in salaries, $10,367,200.00 in building maintenance, |
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Mister Death RJ: McFlono McFloninoo Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 266 Karma: 300 Joined: Feb 6, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 So your issue really isn't that the taxes are high, it's that you can't specialize in a store. You're paying for those dozens and dozens of product slots that you aren't using. That's a completely different issue!
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Chandler Hill RJ: Chandler CO: Chandler Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 54 Karma: 113 Joined: Mar 25, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 Yeah, I guess that's probably it. It just first kinda slapped me with "here's 8 million in taxes on your 50 million NW company, deal w/ it" so
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Mister Death RJ: McFlono McFloninoo Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 266 Karma: 300 Joined: Feb 6, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 Since it's an issue that I'm not sure Scott even has on his radar yet and will take some coding to deal with, I suspect the workaround for you will be to stock your shelves with the remaining products.
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Chandler Hill RJ: Chandler CO: Chandler Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 54 Karma: 113 Joined: Mar 25, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 man that takes so much effort and this is WINE INC not like CAFE' INCI may just sell my mega-cafe and supply wine over b2b if there's no other way. :( |
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Bill Gates RJ: Bill Gates CO: Bill Gates Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 19 Karma: 17 Joined: Apr 6, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 (Last edited on Apr 7, 2012) Yeah I think Scott should really look at this... I usually leave petrol pumping over night, but then I come on and see that my company has decided to spend over $5m on taxes, wages etc. so I'm forced to take out a loan til I sell more petrol. I'm only a 35m NW company too. I'm essentially paying my entire days worth of profit since I rarely make over $2m a day anyway...Apr 7, 2012 12:01 AM The company is short on cash and have taken a loan in the amount of $2,449,808.57. (Loan amount includes a 5% processing fee) Apr 7, 2012 12:01 AM Your company paid $524,510.53 in taxes, $2,611,230.00 in salaries, $303,000.00 in building maintenance, and $0.00 in interests. |
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Roald Adriaansen RJ: Wuvil CO: Wuvil Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 146 Karma: 281 Joined: Feb 4, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 The key would be moderating your expansion so you can keep up with maintenance, the bigger the buildings, the higher the costs. Build several smaller buildings instead of one large etc and then expand bigger. |
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Gheed Baiwa ben sandara RJ: Bob CO: Bob Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 45 Karma: 11 Joined: Apr 3, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 Yeah so we cant build 5000m2 supermarkets just to sell our 20million chickens/tick anymore. We'll just have to adapt :)
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Josh Millard RJ: Tex Corman CO: J. Quaff Arabica Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 167 Karma: 231 Joined: Apr 3, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 (Last edited on Apr 7, 2012) Yeah, this is fixable stuff in terms of how you run your company. (And payroll being a big chunk of daily costs is how businesses work. That we've had a magical land of free robots until now has been nice but it doesn't make much sense economically.)So: 1. Factor a cash balance into your daily workflow. Expand slower, manage inventory more tightly, let a reserve build up throughout the day to cover the cost of the nightly fees. This may slow growth, but it won't kill it unless you're in a totally unviable sector. If you're in a totally unviable sector, start making/selling something else. 2. Diversify your store products. Even just a little bit. Instead of selling one thing, sell four. I tried to get rich making and selling just donuts in my cafe, and it wasn't really working. I started making a few other things that were easy to fold into the same vertical, et voila: money hand over fist. You can do this without stocking a ton of stuff; even just a few core products will help. You can improve daily revenue further by stocking opportunistically from B2B when you see a large lot of something your store can sell at a reasonable price. Grab those when you see them, price them to last a day or so if you want to favor steady revenue over maximum profit-per-tick, and you'll be seeing a pretty solid return on your store. If at some point there's a way to run a specialized outfit, awesome. I totally respect the WE SELL WINE AND THAT'S ALL vision and would start a chain of donut carts if the game supported it. But for now, buck up and accept that dishing up some misc. impulse buys to your wine customers is smart business. |
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Scott (Admin) RJ: Ratan Joyce CO: Ratan Joyce Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 1175 Karma: 5083 Joined: Jan 13, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 (Last edited on Apr 7, 2012) Bill Gates:12:01 AM Your company paid $524,510.53 in taxes, $2,611,230.00 in salaries, $303,000.00 in building maintenance, and $0.00 in interests. I'm guessing it's because you have a 3050 m^2 well, and nothing else. If you like, I can help you separate it into 5 different ones and the salary will go down to 20% of your current salary. I'm a little tempted to appease the masses by removing the "squared" effect of each building and instead adjust for total size and networth level, but on the 2nd thought I think I'll just stick with the current formula for at least a week. Yes, things are changing and I'm sorry if they're causing problems to you, but I'm sure there are ways to adapt. |
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eric scott RJ: Erik Scott CO: Sappo Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 130 Karma: 29 Joined: Apr 5, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 So is it benefical to spread out your buildings, so to speak.So instead of one massive 3000m building, you have 3 1000m buildings? I am struggling to see how this is cheaper though, as 3 buildings will require much more staff to operate than 1 building, no matter the size. Maybe I am looking at this the wrong way... |
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Josh Millard RJ: Tex Corman CO: J. Quaff Arabica Post Rating: 0 + / - Total Posts: 167 Karma: 231 Joined: Apr 3, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 One thing to keep in mind is that real estate is a limited quantity in the game; you can in the long run only actually site so many stores/factories/R&D facilities ever. If you're very niche, that may not seem like an issue -- having twelve cafes, sure! But if you have a more diversified company, you'll be using a lot of real estate just for the first of each facility you use; creating multiple distinct facilities of the same type will be a potentially hard choice when it means you can't put something ELSE in that spot as a result. |
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address unknown RJ: DropsySufferer Post Rating: 4 + / - Total Posts: 32 Karma: -500 Joined: Apr 2, 2012 |
Posted on Apr 7, 2012 If this were made more complex, employee salaries could be set like in capitalism 2. Employee salary would dictate the quality level or speed of stores or factory production. It would be nice to see how many employees our companies actually have.
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